Editors’ Note: After review, The Paly Voice has updated the story to clarify the timeline between Rowena Chiu’s concerns about safety and Danae Reynolds’ differentiation between “unsafe” and “uncomfortable.”
In an exclusive interview Sunday evening with The Paly Voice, Palo Alto Unified School District board trustee Rowena Chiu reflected on the contentious Ethnic Studies board meeting on Jan. 23, her recent social media activity, and the community backlash to that activity.
Last week, Chiu was condemned by 13 former board trustees, the Palo Alto Management Association, and the Palo Alto Educators Association in response to her reposting a post on X that, according to the PAEA statement, “villainized a PAUSD staff member.”
After facing negative feedback from audience members at the Jan. 23 special board meeting about the implementation of an Ethnic Studies course, Chiu said in the meeting that she felt unsafe. Fifty minutes later, PAUSD administrator Danae Reynolds characterized the difference between feeling unsafe and uncomfortable by sharing her personal experience as a Black woman. Reynolds’ comments during the meeting — interpreted as a response to Chiu’s concerns — were referred to in the X post by Asians Against Wokeness, which stated that Chiu had faced “bullying” by other board members for voicing her feelings.
Chiu told the Voice that she agreed with social media’s interpretation of the board meeting.
“The actual post from Asians Against Wokeness represented a position that was in line with my own interpretation of Ms. Reynolds’s comments, which were that they were directed at Asian people and the validity of Asian people to feel unsafe,” Chiu said. “I only agree with their interpretation of what happened in our board meeting. That doesn’t mean I broadly endorse Asians Against Wokeness, nor do I condone any form of racism or hate speech that took place underneath that repost.”
Although Chiu has since removed the repost, she did not remove her original comment on the social media post, which said: “I am a Harvey Weinstein Survivor. In 1998, Weinstein told me, as he attempted to rape me, that he ‘liked Chinese girls, because they’re discreet’. In 2025, as an elected official, I spoke up about Asian oppression, and I was suppressed yet again.”
Reflecting on her online statement, Chiu said that Reynolds’ comments had reinforced the long-standing oppression of an ethnic group.
“The link that I drew was the suppression of Asian voices in general,” Chiu said. “I was addressing the validity of my personal safety. If I say in a public board meeting as a public official that I don’t feel safe, I would love to think that that would be taken more seriously. Instead, my interpretation of Ms. Reynolds’ comments was that, ‘As a person of my affinity group, I didn’t have the right to say, to claim the word ‘unsafe’ and I only had the right to feel uncomfortable.’”
According to Chiu, she feels PAEA was too harsh with its response to her repost.
“I’m extremely upset about the statement that PAEA released,” Chiu said. “It was couched in extremely strong language. I feel that I’m being censored in a very harsh way for placing a district employee under risk, and I would like to say it was never my intention to place another woman of color under risk.”
Chiu said PAEA urged her to take down the repost, which she complied with in order to protect another woman of color.
“PAEA pointed out that it was risky to have the name and face of a district employee amplified in that way, and I agreed with that, so I took it down immediately,” Chiu said. “As somebody who is also a woman of color, I have also very much been at risk: I’ve been racially abused and racially attacked, I’ve been spat at in the street and I’ve had death threats. I understand what it is to be a woman of color who feels at risk. I would never wish that on another human being, and that would be the reason why I took it down.”
Reflecting on the board meeting, Chiu said it was a challenge to strike a collaborative environment.
“I felt that the room was pretty hostile when we entered,” Chiu said. “It felt like the audience had already made up their minds before we began to speak, so it was really difficult to establish an atmosphere of genuine intellectual inquiry and open dialogue. At various points during that long meeting I tried to say ‘I’m also a human being, I also make mistakes, I’m very new to being a board member, and I would really like to be able to ask the teachers some open-ended questions.’”
According to Chiu, she struggled with finding diverse perspectives in a mostly biased group of audience members.
“Free speech is a tenet of US democracy and must be protected; obviously anyone should feel free to be in the room and anyone should feel free to hold up signs in support of things they believe in,” Chiu said. “But one of the things that I really struggled with in this particular meeting is that the room felt very one-sided. It was really hard to identify people who had diverse views. In fact, it felt entirely that the room was united around one view, and if that view is against what you are trying to say, then I think it’s really hard to proceed.”
In spite of Chiu’s position regarding the implementation of an Ethnic Studies course next year, she recognizes the importance of such a course.
“In the context of Ethnic Studies, it’s important that we confront race and we confront who we are, and we have those hard conversations about racism,” Chiu said. “The only way that we can eradicate bigotry and hate speech is to shine a light on it, condemn it and say that this is abhorrent.”
According to Chiu, she encourages the community to consider both sides of the story for a well-informed perspective.
“I got sent screenshots of hateful things being said about Ms. Reynolds, which I abhor and I entirely condemn, but there are also hateful things being said both about me and about Asian people,” Chiu said. “It is really important that we present a balanced view that there is race hate on many different ethnic groups and that all of that is deeply, deeply problematic.”
Asian Parent in PA • Feb 4, 2025 at 12:18 pm
I sat through the entire 5+ hour meeting in person. Were there signs supporting both sides of the debate? Yes! This is a passionate community and stakeholders, be they parents, students, teachers or community members, show up when an issue they care deeply about come out to make their voices heard. I was beyond impressed by the eloquence and passion of the students who spoke. People reacted to those they agreed with with applauses or finger snaps. The teachers and administrators answered questions professionally. Every Board member commented and asked questions with care. There was no shouting or personal attacks directed at any particular person in the room. The Board President who presided over the session repeatedly reminded each Board member that there was plenty of time for them to ask questions before making their decisions.
Ms. Chiu asked questions. She may not find the answers to her questions satisfactory to her liking, but those sitting around the dais provided their answers professionally. From where I sat in the audience, Ms. Chiu asked questions thoughtfully and with care, SO WAS EVERYONE ELSE on the dais, from administrators to student reps to teachers, and Board members.
I am Asian. I have certainly encountered outright racism and microaggressions. But racism directed at anyone in that meeting room that night? No. Racism against Asians, not remotely.
Observer • Feb 4, 2025 at 2:41 am
The good news is there was no actual racism here, which makes sense since there is close to zero actual racism in Palo Alto. The bad news is this “woke” tragi-comedy shows that despite decreasing national support for “woke” ideology nonsense there is no sign of this fever breaking on the peninsula any time soon. At the meeting, Ms. Chiu said the nature of the criticism directed at her made her “feel unsafe.” It’s not clear she knew she was doing so, but by using the magic words “X makes me feel unsafe,” Ms. Chiu used a well-known cynical “woke” jujitsu move of trying to place the person or people arguing against what Ms. Chiu was arguing for at a disadvantage by placing them under completely undeserved scrutiny for racism or sexism or some other moral wrong. Ms. Reynolds very legitimately could have pointed out that there was no good reason for Ms. Chiu to “feel unsafe” and that it was manipulative to use this “woke” jujitsu move. Instead, Ms. Reynold cynically countered with her own “woke” jujitsu move that only race Y or group Z is entitled to use the “X makes me feel unsafe” jujitsu move. It was very inappropriate (and arguably “bullying”), but not racist, for Ms. Reynolds to include Ms. Chiu’s race in her criticism of Ms. Chiu. Next, on X, Ms. Chiu legitimately criticized Ms. Reynolds for inappropriately using race in her criticism of herself. This legitimate criticism by Ms. Chiu was then used as a pretext for the 13 former board members, the Palo Alto Management Association and Palo Alto Educators cynically to use still more “woke” jujitsu to falsely characterize Ms. Chiu legitimate criticism of Ms. Reynold’s as “villainizing a PAUSD staff member,” with the deplorable implication that Ms. Chiu was in some way engaging in racism by legitimately criticizing Ms. Reynold’s inappropriate race-based criticism of herself. A main tragedy of this bankrupt divisive “woke” ideology is that many of the current generation of students, including some who have made comments to this article, have been brainwashed to believe that this is a valid framework for interpreting the world. To do so, these students must buy into corruptive ideas such as that racism is rampant in Palo Alto when obviously there is almost no racism in Palo Alto. What would be appropriate is for the 13 former board members, the Palo Alto Management Association and Palo Alto Educators to apologize to Ms. Chiu.
PAUSD parent • Feb 4, 2025 at 1:03 am
At preschool, my child was taught that expressing feeling is part of being a person. It is fine to have feeling and to express how one feels. Rowena Chiu has the right to express her concerns without facing undue criticism or censorship. Her call for careful implementation of the Ethnic Studies curriculum is not a rejection of its value but a responsible approach to ensuring it is taught effectively and thoughtfully. No one should feel silenced or unsafe for voicing their views.
Michelle • Feb 3, 2025 at 9:23 pm
As a parent looking for the best educational environment for my children, I’ve been observing the school district’s direction. I appreciate Rowena’s commitment to prioritizing the needs of students and parents. I hope she continues to champion their voices.
A Grateful Palo Alto Mom • Feb 3, 2025 at 9:16 pm
We are grateful Rowena for the sacrifices you and your family have made for the community. You genuinely care about us and have taken time to listen to our teachers, parents, students, and the wider community. We admire your bravery and really appreciate you for speaking up and especially representing those whose voices have been underrepresented. We are really fortunate to have you serve on the PAUSD Board and I know you’ll make the schools a better place for all of our children.
Gunn parent • Feb 3, 2025 at 9:13 pm
Dr. Don Austin needs to explain why the correct documents were not shared with the board? Transparency and data dependency has *never* been a forte of the PAUSD administration, staff and board. Dr. Don Austin yet again proved it.
How on earth can the board make an educated vote on something as IMPORTANT as ES without looking at what they are voting for?????
Ms. Shana and Mr. Shaunak: Do you really know what you voted yes for?? “Blindly” supporting the offering by teachers on ES just because they spent two years has no rhyme or reason! The board is elected for the very reason to maintain checks and balances; not just voting in whatever the teachers say! You got this totally wrong!
Laura • Feb 3, 2025 at 8:52 pm
It’s devastating to hear that the school board even many school principals turned their backs on Ms. Chiu after she served as a PTA member and PTA presidents at multiple schools at the same time for some years. All because of a non-racist comment that was made on the internet? Unbelievable. It feels like bullying to me.
Wakeup • Feb 3, 2025 at 10:44 pm
This unanimous signing of the open letter condemning Ms. Chiu reminds me of voting scenes in certain other parts of the world. I believe that at least some of the principals may not fully agree with the letter’s message but simply need more courage to defy the ‘Big Brother.’
DisappointingParent • Feb 3, 2025 at 8:31 pm
I watched the whole special board meeting. I don’s understand why Ms. Chiu could not speak up for her own feelings? I would like my kids to be able to express how they feel regardless of their colors or groups. It’s a feeling everybody could express. I wish the school board could focus more on our kids’ education rather than those personal attack and politics. I, as one of the many parents, would like to know more about the ethnics study course before it became mandatory. I don’t see why Ms. Chiu’s request for more transparency is wrong.
Regrets • Feb 3, 2025 at 6:19 pm
Many people regret voting for Ms. Chiu. She appears to relish race wars and knows how to capitalize on her victim narrative, very fitting for someone pursuing higher office. But this is not her job on the School Board. Hard to see how she is going to serve our students when it’s always about herself.
Henry at Gunn • Feb 3, 2025 at 8:41 pm
We firmly stand behind Chiu
Wakeup • Feb 3, 2025 at 8:47 pm
Ms. Chiu won the election by a landslide, meaning she represents the majority of voters compared to the other candidates. She has kept her promises and advocated for those who elected her. How, then, can this be ‘always about herself’?
As for someone pursuing higher office, you may want to verify who this ‘someone’ actually is by searching ‘local democrats vie for assembly district delegate seats’.
ConcernedParent • Feb 3, 2025 at 8:56 pm
“Many people” without actual specific references while more than 2000 people signed open letter with real names. Which one is closer to reality is so obvious.
Regrets • Feb 4, 2025 at 7:01 am
People had three vote choices for school board. Rowena was a third choice for lots of people..maybe the loud (NOT silenced) voices backed here backed her as their first choice, but not everyone did. She talks fancy and made appealing campaign promises, but at the end of the day she’s about race baiting, pursuing a victim narrative and creating drama. Josh and Allison aren’t like this. No thank you Rowena.
ConcernedParent • Feb 3, 2025 at 5:05 pm
Rowena courageously stood up for her constituents in a tough environment. Thank you!
Paly • Feb 3, 2025 at 2:35 pm
Rowena had nothing to apologize for. What is shameful on the other hand is the persecution campaigned waged by all of the PAUSD principles.
Concerned Watcher • Feb 3, 2025 at 2:30 pm
It is a gross misinterpretation to claim that Ms. Chiu attacked Ms. Reynolds. Ms. Chiu is simply expressing her feeling of being oppressed during the meeting. You may not share her perspective, but it is entirely inappropriate to question or criticize her feelings of oppression.
Having reviewed all the available comments and posts from Ms. Chiu, I have not found a single instance where she criticizes Ms. Reynolds. The PAEA and PAMA are going too far in assuming that Ms. Reynolds is the victim in this situation. In fact, Ms. Reynolds openly criticizes Ms. Chiu and lectures her on not being “privileged” enough to use the word “unsafe.”
Why should our lead educators behave this way? Is this truly the model we want to set for our students?
PALY parent • Feb 3, 2025 at 6:07 pm
Danae Raynaolds’s condescending tone and inflammatory comments on how Asian can’t feel unsafe because Asian wasn’t oppressed as much is hard to watch. If she is the one putting together the curriculum of ethnic studies, I urge that the school board to scrutinize it under microscope. It’s extremely important that this course will give each race enough share of the course coverage, considering Asian consisting of 40% of students! They don’t need this condescending tone in the class telling them that they are not entitled to express their feelings just because Asian wasn’t oppressed as much.
Another Paly parent • Feb 5, 2025 at 3:58 pm
And, the interesting part is that most Asians who watched it recognized it immediately as the type of passive aggressive racism that has been directed towards them their whole lives as their lived experience (including me). While people of other ethnicities don’t see it. It’s fascinating.
Tom • Feb 3, 2025 at 2:29 pm
More than 2100 Palo Alto students, parents, alum and community members signed the ongoing petition to support Rowena Chiu. It lays out the events and the facts very clearly. Read for yourself. tinyurl dot com slash SupportRowena-SignedLetter
Harper • Feb 3, 2025 at 2:13 pm
All that Rowena Chiu asked for was to see what the class would be teaching students. Why is that so controversial? What is PAUSD hiding?
If the class is so amazing, share it with us.
Making her feel bad – and other parents and students feel bad – just for asking to see the curriculum is not okay.
About social media – there are trolls everywhere. She took down the post when she saw what had happened. Story over.
Tom • Feb 3, 2025 at 2:08 pm
This really is veiled prejudice against Asians at play. The whole issue reminds me of ‘praise’ that Asians are the ‘model minority’, that they have good jobs, they are law-abiding, that they pay taxes, and they don’t have much of a voice to rock the boat. But god forbid when they start getting into a position to challenge the status quo, like Rowena getting elected to a board that traditionally has both ethnically and ideologically, neglected the Asian voice. And challenged , she did, and she was immediately lectured to go back to her ‘rightful’ place for an Asian, be quiet, be discreet. And what little challenge she did on that day was merely asking basic questions such as ‘What’s the curriculum?’. The teachers and the supporters threw a big fit at that and hackled, jeered, interrupted, stonewalled. Notice the lack of dissenting voice from the room? That’s by design. The room was packed by a self selecting group before the door was even open. And the Paly vice principal was the body guard who blocked everyone who may have different voice out, many of them Asians. What opinion might they have? We’ll never find out, because they never got to speak.
And thus, the whole point of Rowena’s tweet, that Asians don’t have a voice.
Asian Parent in PA • Feb 4, 2025 at 11:31 am
“…elected to a board that traditionally has both ethnically and ideologically, neglected the Asian voice”– There are many Asians in this community, and there certainly isn’t ONE Asian voice. There are many perspectives among Asians, as you can see in this comment section. While we may share common cultural norms and upbringings, we do not have the same ideology or belief. And there is certainly no one-single-Asian-voice.
PAUSD Parent and Voter • Feb 4, 2025 at 5:36 pm
That is very true! That is why Nicole Chiu-Wang was rejected by the voters twice!
Rowena is strong and courageous!
Parents with youngs • Feb 3, 2025 at 2:05 pm
Ms Chiu sounds very sincere and genuine in this interview. The non-biased tone of this journal is really appreciated. She has my 1000% support!! She’s the voice of many concerned parents.
Fred • Feb 3, 2025 at 1:20 pm
The #1 thing board members can’t do is personally criticize staff members in public. It is bullying, plain and simple – board members hold all the power. Imagine if your CEO or Board members publicly criticized you or your work, in social media or the paper? It would be humiliating and you’d be powerless to respond.
That’s why PAEA and PAMA are responding so strongly – this puts every single staff member at risk of being bullied by board members. It can’t be allowed.
This puts aside the simple fact that what Ms. Reynolds said was neither racist nor even directed at Ms. Chiu – the comments were 50 minutes apart, and at least one other board member mentioned “feeling safe” in the meantime. Ms. Chiu, instead of assuming good intent (another norm), is instead assumes racism.
Finally, Ms. Chiu’s comments about board meetings – advocates showed up! they vocally disagreed with me! – shows an alarming lack of understanding of how public meetings work. If she’s not used to be in spaces where people disagree with her (even a lot of them), school board may not be right role for her.
Tom • Feb 3, 2025 at 1:46 pm
Except that the room was packed with supporters before it was even open to the public. Besides a potential Brown Act violation that’s another form of suppression- equity for me and none for you.
Palo Alto resident • Feb 3, 2025 at 5:58 pm
First, let’s clarify that the tweet in question and the response to it would have happened regardless of Rowena’s actions. This was not a reaction to something she did—except for speaking about her concerns at the board meeting. The tweet was a direct response to what the administrator said.
The administrator put themselves in a problematic position by making an offensive and inappropriate statement at a public board meeting in their official capacity. The Superintendent failed by not clarifying to the community that what they heard was not what was meant and does not reflect PAUSD values.
Rowena did not author the tweet containing the administrator’s statement. Her follow-up comments and retweet did nothing to amplify the vile responses to the original tweet. Large accounts retweeted that post because what the administrator said was deeply hurtful and inappropriate. Meanwhile, Rowena’s audience consists primarily of DEI-minded followers, who do not engage in vile comments.
This is what Rowena wrote when linking to that tweet after being invalidated and bullied at the board meeting:
“I am a Harvey Weinstein survivor. In 1998, Weinstein told me, as he attempted to rape me, that he ‘liked Chinese girls, because they’re discreet.’ In 2024, as an elected official, I spoke up about Asian oppression, and I was suppressed yet again.”
Rowena is a new board member who faced significant bullying in a hostile and poorly managed meeting. What should be addressed here are:
— The ingrained problems within PAUSD
— The administrator’s deeply hurtful remarks
— The toxic culture that led to this unreasonable attack
Asians Speaking up • Feb 3, 2025 at 7:22 pm
First, reposting is not the same thing as “personally criticize staff members in public”. There are many level of you could associate the two act and PAEA and PAMA chose the most extreme and possible one.
Second, what you said as “simple fact” is not a fact at all. It’s your own opinion. There are multiple times when unsafe/safe was mentioned in the 4.5 hr ordeal, including right before Ms. Reynold’s remark. And you are dismissing how thousands of Palo Altan interpreted Mrs. Reynold’s message and how we feel, and lecturing us what’s “right”, just like what Mrs. Reynold did to Rowena.
We Asians did not speak up right after the board meeting, just like many nasty things happened to us before. We keep quiet, we lower our head, we move on. But these tactics pulled by PAEA and PAMA crossed the line. You WILL hear our voice loud and strong.
Wakeup • Feb 3, 2025 at 9:20 pm
I wonder who determines your so-called #1 thing. Is a public speech by a public employee in a public meeting not open to public criticism, scrutiny, or even sharing?
Pissed Off Graduate-To-Be • Feb 3, 2025 at 12:26 am
Lamentful. Saying “that doesn’t mean I broadly endorse Asians Against Wokeness,” an anonymous account dedicated to pitting Asian Americans against Black / Brown communities in this country (despite the often shared experiences across lines of racism, discrimination, and mutual cultural misunderstanding), doesn’t remove the fact that she significantly contributed to the harassment of Ms. Reynolds by amplifying a reactionary racist account.
Notice how the word “apologize,” “apology,” or “sorry” doesn’t come up once in this article? How she vaguely “condemned” the “hateful things” (Ms. Reynolds being called a monkey, a DEI-Hire, the N-Word) without ever actually publicly stating that she regrets her actions or feels any sort of repentance? Or how, right after that, she immediately pivoted to trying to both-side the argument and saying that she faced racism too?
I am an Asian American. My community buys skin whiteners to feel pretty, gets scared at the thought of bringing a Black person in our home, and forgets that we, albeit to a lesser extent, are disposable in the eyes of racist America. We have a duty to break down the racism here between Black, Brown, and Asian communities. Rowena Chiu, with this, proves she is not interested in that in the slightest. She is interested in amplifying how hurt the Asian American community is, not the Black woman who had her face displayed to a mob of angry White Americans using our discomfort as an excuse to be racist.
If you can’t handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Parent • Feb 3, 2025 at 9:39 am
Calm down. Don’t bring more heat to the kitchen. It was never the correct solution.
Pissed Off Graduate-To-Be • Feb 3, 2025 at 11:02 am
You might not have a stakes in this because you already grew up, but the rest of us do.
One Parent too Many • Feb 4, 2025 at 10:40 am
It is kind of you to describe us parents as “grown up.” I’m not sure it’s an accurate description.
I wish we could hear more student voices in this forum so I’ll be quiet now.
Asians Speaking up • Feb 3, 2025 at 10:22 pm
Your message assumes malice, ignoring the complexity of the contentious issues. You ignore Rowena’s goal to amplify valid concerns but attribute her significantly to other negative ones only.
You ignored her condemnation of racism and her actions post effect. She called for systemic change, which may be more impactful. Actions and commitments to equity matter more than specific words. She’s pursuing equity for all. Not for herself not for Asians only. All. While it’s commendable that your generation is advocating against racism, it’s crucial for you to recognize reverse discrimination and racism at its best disguise, especially against Asians.
Girl, “My community buys skin whiteners to feel pretty”. You don’t have to play the racism card here. Many colored people and culture prefer lighter skins before they were even exposed to any Caucasian people and culture at all. Many people prefer bright day light compared to dark night. It’s just human nature and preference. Not everything is about race.
And to say “gets scared at the thought of bringing a Black person in our home”. Please stop generalizing this to “community” level. If it’s your own family, go argue with your parents. Decent Asian families would not exclude a person by their skin color.
Any such self inflicted guilt and generalization at community level would only make the racial divide more intense. It’s not helping your agenda at all.
Paly Student • Feb 19, 2025 at 10:27 pm
As a Paly student, I’m in partial agreement.
I completely agree with your statement “Or how, right after that.” I think it speaks volumes about our PAUSD community, and how ideas and emotion are spread.
However, I am slightly dismayed with your choice of words. I am a firm believer in a nonpartisan style of writing. Words such as “lamentful” show that you obviously are in agreement with Rowena Chiu’s actions.
On a side note, this evening I had a delicious steak at Fleming’s on El Camino. I feel like they really understood me as a person, unlike you, my friend. The mashed potatoes were the perfect consistency, fluffy yet firm, and smooth. I enthusiastically encourage anyone reading this to pay them an evening visit.